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Theology Forum / Re: The Beast Revelation
« Last post by Michael on September 03, 2014, 03:41:18 AM »
You're not the only one- you're just one of the only few who has bothered to respond for the last couple of years.

Gary tells us  that everything he knows comes to him directly from God or from angels that only Gary can see and hear. Evidently, God has loaned some knowledge to other people too, who come here and find the whole spiel spectacularly unconvincing.
  I was literally grieved at the stuff I read. I'm not a regular here, as you know. It appeared as if he was the resident teacher. I just had to say something...I have a very high opinion of the UCC. Thanks for the update.
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UCC Cafť / Prayer Request
« Last post by CindiK on September 03, 2014, 03:38:22 AM »
So 8 days ago, I fell and broke my foot and hand...

...and this coming Sunday I'm doing pulpit supply.

Prayers for strength (in the short term) and healing (in the long term) appreciated.
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UCC Cafť / Re: What are you drinking?
« Last post by CindiK on September 03, 2014, 03:33:07 AM »
Diet Dr. Pepper today.
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Theology Forum / Re: The Beast Revelation
« Last post by Richard on September 03, 2014, 03:26:08 AM »
You're not the only one- you're just one of the only few who has bothered to respond for the last couple of years.

Gary tells us  that everything he knows comes to him directly from God or from angels that only Gary can see and hear. Evidently, God has loaned some knowledge to other people too, who come here and find the whole spiel spectacularly unconvincing.
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Theology Forum / Re: The Beast Revelation
« Last post by Michael on September 03, 2014, 12:21:07 AM »
  In the mean time, I have done a complete commentary on the book of Revelation, which is posted here.  If you still have questions, they are all answered in my thread on revelation, if you get through it and still have a question that you think, is not answered, post it and I will do my best to answer it for you.  Nothing you posted is right.

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Gary Sechler
With knowledge on loan from God

  I took a look at some of your writings, but I wish I hadn't. Your beliefs are a collective mess. I can't be the only one who thinks so. Maybe you think by the volume of your writings you can somehow be right. Now, not only do I want to see you answer this before God, I want to be present. I wish I hadn't have looked at them. I hope you are the only one who believes as you do and you are not some sort of teacher who leads multitudes. It would be a crying shame. Also, don't believe that you can say the Bible said these things, then if you disagree, that you disagree with God. That's just ignorant. No group should have to put up with such nonsense. I did not read everything you have written, so I would hope something you said somewhere is correct. I'm astounded by your lack of understanding.


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Theology Forum / Re: The Beast Revelation
« Last post by Michael on September 02, 2014, 09:20:13 PM »
Well Michael, it's been 3 years and you're still just as wrong as you were 3  years ago.  In the mean time, I have done a complete commentary on the book of Revelation, which is posted here.  If you still have questions, they are all answered in my thread on revelation, if you get through it and still have a question that you think, is not answered, post it and I will do my best to answer it for you.  Nothing you posted is right.

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Gary Sechler
With knowledge on loan from God

   I think the only one who is going to settle this argument is God.  Yes, it's been three years and I still hold to all my words. I don't want to change anything, unlike most of the teachers I hear. I don't need to change anything. It will be the same today as it is tomorrow. I'm just wondering how long until the light turns on...


 
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Theology Forum / Re: The Beast Revelation
« Last post by gary sechler on September 02, 2014, 05:18:39 PM »
Well Michael, it's been 3 years and you're still just as wrong as you were 3  years ago.  In the mean time, I have done a complete commentary on the book of Revelation, which is posted here.  If you still have questions, they are all answered in my thread on revelation, if you get through it and still have a question that you think, is not answered, post it and I will do my best to answer it for you.  Nothing you posted is right.

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Gary Sechler
With knowledge on loan from God
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Theology Forum / Re: the Gospel of John
« Last post by gary sechler on September 02, 2014, 04:20:42 PM »
Interpreting the Bible the gospel of John 2 11-15 Lesson
11.  This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him.

This miracle would have tied His disciples to Him for the rest of His ministry.  I do disagree with this happening on the third day after His baptism, because the other gospels tell us He went off into the wilderness for 40 days.  This is a more likely scenario because John would have led Him to Qumran to the temple library that was hidden there, and Jesus would have needed time to get to know and understand the Holy Spirit.  That 40 days in the wilderness would have been closer to 2 and a half years and since Johnís disciples were living and studying there, there would have been a constant stream of Johnís followers bringing food and water to the area, but it may well have been 40 days or more, before he left Qumran, and went home for a decent meal.

 12.  After this he went down to Capernaum, he, and his mother, and his brethren, and his disciples: and they continued there not many days. 

Capernaum is thought to have been on the North coast of the sea of Galilee.  Capernaum is supposed to be 18 to 20 miles from Bethany, although I found one source that stated 85 miles.  The 18 to 20 seems too close, but the 85 sounds like itís way too much.  Because of terrorists, any map of Israel is intentionally blurred when it is brought up on the internet, so trying to discern the distance is difficult.  Capernaum is the home of Simon Peter, Andrew, James and John.

 13.  And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.

So all of this is supposed to have happened just before spring.  There were 3 Passovers during the time from Jesusí baptism until His crucifixion.  This would be the first one.

 14.  And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting:

Not everyone who needed to make a blood sacrifice, raised livestock, so there were those who kept a steady supply of suitable animals on hand, for those who had the money and needed an animal to die for their sins.  The people did not have the means or the time to go out in the country and find a suitable sacrifice animal, so those who sold could ask an exorbitant sum and get it with out much argument.  The most offensive, were the money changers, the temple tax, could have been paid in any countries coin, but the temple priests required that it be paid in shekels, and the money changers would under value the worth of the foreign coins, in order to add to their profit on the exchange of money.

 15.  And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;

This story appears in Matthew 21, and in Mark 11, but neither of them contain the detail included here in John.  It also places it at the beginning of Jesusí ministry, rather than at the end as do the others in Mat. & Mark.  In situations such as this we tend to look at them, without taking Godís influence in the events, which is normal because we donít normally understand or know how God would work in the events as they happen.  God has the power to control the mindset of all involved.  He would have had the situation well in control.  The merchants and priests would be shocked and taken by surprise that anyone would do, what Jesus did.  They would have taken Jesus to be a crazy man, and God would have filled them with fear of Him.  He would have been unknown and could have gotten by with it easier this early in His ministry.  He could have easily have pulled this off, blended into the massive crowds, and they would have no way to find Him.  At the end of His ministry, He would have been well known in Jerusalem and easily found. God would have had more work keeping Him free until it was time for Him to be arrested.

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Gary Sechler
With knowledge on loan from God
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Theology Forum / Re: Books for Discussion
« Last post by ArthurStone on August 29, 2014, 08:58:53 PM »
Don what book did you choose?
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UCC Cafť / Re: Riddle me this
« Last post by ArthurStone on August 29, 2014, 08:54:17 PM »
What can split itself
 before splitting something else?


answer:  Lightning. It looks like itís splitting apart in the sky, and trees are split in half when struck by lightning

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