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UCC Café / Re: Riddle me this
« Last post by ArthurStone on November 09, 2014, 12:27:41 AM »
Q: If an electric train is heading north, which way would the steam be coming out?















A: There wouldn't be any. It's an electric train.
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UCC Café / Re: Share some daily Humor
« Last post by ArthurStone on November 09, 2014, 12:14:04 AM »
sorry those pictures did not come through.  Well, so the story is told ....

The clerk at the post office asked a customer if she would like to insure her package. "That won't be necessary," said the customer, "Because the contents are not breakable." The clerk was not so sure. "Madam," he explained, "we're professionals here. We can break anything!"
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UCC Café / Re: Random Thoughts ... Please Add Your Own
« Last post by ArthurStone on November 09, 2014, 12:11:50 AM »
Still looking for others to add positive thoughts ...  I found this ...

How to understand a woman ...
 Fine = No
 Whatever = No
 Maybe = I'm Just Saying This To Shut You Up
 I Don't Care = I'll Deal With You Later
 Go Away = Comfort Me
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Synod resolutions/UCC polity and politics / Re: The Nicene Creed and UCC Polity
« Last post by ArthurStone on November 08, 2014, 11:54:48 PM »
I asked a simple question: What is that you think Jesus taught about loving God and our neighbor that we could "simply do" and thereby not give in  to an army of mass murderers and have world peace?

The simple answer is to trust God.  I do not claim to know the mind of God on this.  Nor would I dare to think that you are challenging the teaching of Jesus about the greatest of commandments.  Clearly, IMHO, the response of Bush & Cheny did not help the problems of that area, at least so far.  I am not ruling out that it might have been part of God's plan to let those filled with greed, envy, revenge, hatred, lust, idolatry unleash their evils upon each other.  But I am convinced that any involvement by the USA is motivated by the same selfishness and sin of the powerful elite and special interests.

Clearly God wants both justice and love and we need to be instruments of both.  How we do that, without sin, seems to be the problem.  The solution, IMHO, seems to be in looking to see how Jesus himself responded to the evil and violence of the powerful of his time.  Then, trying to follow his way.
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Synod resolutions/UCC polity and politics / Re: The Nicene Creed and UCC Polity
« Last post by ArthurStone on November 08, 2014, 11:24:49 PM »
I think the people who start a mess are responsible for it.

By your logic Bush and Cheney are responsible for the whole mess!  I choose to look for the true root of the problem as it relates to this particular thread.

[edit] To be fair, the root cause, perhaps, goes back even further to the Punic Wars.  The creed just gives North Africa a reminder of why they dislike being controlled by Rome.  Just as you dislike being told what to think, when it does not fit your personal world and faith view.  We could perhaps look even deeper to say that the root cause to "the mess" is the basic sins of greed and envoy and lust for power. [end of edit]
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Theology Forum / Re: "God's Will Be Done Om Earth As It Is In Heaven "
« Last post by ArthurStone on November 08, 2014, 11:18:04 PM »
Gary, please be content to let God, through the Holy Spirit, be the judge of others.  Your (our) human weakness is still revealed in the judgments you (we) choose to make about others.

While your opinion of Obama may find agreement from some here in this thread, I find the statement distasteful, disrespectful, and far from true.  It must have been quite a chore to count every lie told by every president.  Lets stick to pointing to God, instead of listening to the propaganda of the people who seek the power of God to control others while they get rich.  We need to be careful that political propaganda and the faked news of powerful con artists does not blind us to what Jesus came to teach.

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Theology Forum / Re: The End of the World
« Last post by ArthurStone on November 08, 2014, 11:00:49 PM »
The end of the world is talked about in many places, from many different perspectives.  Perhaps it is a warning to focus our minds on what is truly important, to love God with our total being and awareness, and to love our neighbors as ourselves.

Ecclesiastes 10.14:

yet fools talk on and on.
   No one knows what is to happen,
   and who can tell anyone what the future holds?


Matthew 24.36:

‘But about that day and hour no one knows, neither the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.


and its parallel in ..
Mark 13.32:

‘But about that day or hour no one knows, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
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Theology Forum / Re: "God's Will Be Done Om Earth As It Is In Heaven "
« Last post by gary sechler on November 08, 2014, 10:57:46 PM »
Arthur thank you for the kind words, may God bless you with a wonderful day !!
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Theology Forum / Re: "God's Will Be Done Om Earth As It Is In Heaven "
« Last post by gary sechler on November 08, 2014, 10:53:23 PM »
First off cindi, I look forward to answers to your question, but the variation in visits, does not indicate that what you propose is a rational answer.
Rich, I realize you have a problem, dealing with a real God, who, Just as is prophesied in Revelation will walk among us and we will see Him face to face, we do every day, in fact occasionally He posts here.  that does pose a serious problem for you, He hasn't tapped you on the shoulder and said "hey, nice to meet you, I'm God," as He did to myself and every prophet and apostle in the Bible.  One day maybe.  Jesus said, "If you have done it to the least of these, you have done it to me."  That wasn't a parable, it was a fact. everybody who has been sanctified in the past 2,000 plus years has been remade into perfect spiritual images of Jesus, and have returned to help Jesus with His work of perfecting humankind, and as such, they are here to try and test us, and because of the work they do, those who were here were called "fallen angels" by the Old & New testament writers.  There are no such things as fallen angels, once a soul is Sanctified, it cannot be unsanctified.  It will be part of the body of God forever.  Yes they do things normally performed by sinners, but it is done, in order to find evil hidden in the souls of others, that God has to weed out and destroy, and He does, in order to save the soul.  It is a painful process.  Today I see more and more angels doing things that are necessary to Justify the fallen, because there are fewer and fewer souls that will take the bait and commit a mortal sin, which means that God has made tremendous progress in cleaning up the world of Evil.  there is still a long way to go, before the 'fallen" angels can do like the frogs of Revelation and jump out of the mouth of the dragon forever, but we get closer every day.  I see hope in our recent election, where the most proven lying president that has ever held office, has been repudiated on a national scale.  God did that, and every Christian needs to be praying for Him to once again take the lead in our country and give us leaders who will fer God, honor Him, and not be scared to call upon His name to bless and protect our country, and to lead us back to being a powerful presence in the world for good and for the advancement of Christian principles, by helping others when natural disasters strike, doing what is possible to spread true Christianity through out the world.  The church is in dire need of returning to Isaiah 58 as a guiding light to lead it into the Kingdom of God.  To cease from wasting it's God given money to elect people who hate God and fund the killing of babies, and lie to their constituents, and instead take back the work that God gave it to do of caring for the poor, feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, housing the homeless, and praying for, and providing health care for the sick, instead of trying to elect people who will waste billions of dollars trying to do the church's work, it can't and has no business trying.  the poor need to come to the church for help in order for them to be in touch with people who will, because of Jesus in their lives, will love them, help them, but will teach them not to steal or cheat.  Dealing with the government only teaches them to lie, cheat, and steal, just the opposite of what they need to get ahead in life !~!

<><===><>
Gary Sechler
With knowledge on loan from God.
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Theology Forum / Re: "God's Will Be Done Om Earth As It Is In Heaven "
« Last post by ArthurStone on November 08, 2014, 10:51:36 PM »
Almost no one visits anymore. I'm Facebook friends with some of the past regulars, and have tried to get people to come back. They say it's basically become Gary's private blog, and they're not interested.

The bulk of the "reads" of any of the posts on the site are automated reads by search engine indexing spiders (Google, Bing, etc.), e-mail harvesters for spam, and the like.

When no one comments, no one is engaged.

OTOH, if I'm wrong, someone reply to this thread and tell me how much you appreciate the daily Bible study.

While I find that Gary's writing gives me cause to use much discernment, his posts have not stopped me from returning.  The negativity from the Orthodox who seem to share little truth or love for anyone not bending over and bowing to their understanding is, IMHO, what has driven most away.  Gary is content to let the Holy Spirit work.  While others in this thread claim that their perspectives are the only ones that could possibly be valid.  I tire more easily of Richard & Richard.  At least Gary gives me something positive to discern.
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