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UCC Café / What are you drinking?
« on: August 22, 2014, 11:53:46 PM »

UCC Café / Re: Share some daily Humor
« on: June 30, 2014, 07:28:17 PM »
A young minister was called to a church with a long history and an historic building filled with stained glass: images of the apostles on either side and a multicolored image of Christ behind the chancel. Surveying the sanctuary for the first time, she noted a small plaque on the pulpit. Moving for a closer look, she saw it said

Pastor, we want to see Jesus.

Touched by this reminder, she endeavored to remember that people came to better know Jesus, not to know the preacher. And though she preferred to preach from the center of the chancel rather than from the imposing pulpit set to one side, she visited that plaque each morning to remind her to be humble.

One day after service, a few of the long-time members of the church approached the pastor. "Reverend, we have a small request of you. Would you mind very much preaching from the pulpit?"

She was a bit surprised at first, but the minister reasoned that these folks were probably accustomed to preaching from the pulpit. Pressing for a better understanding of their request, she asked "while I'm certainly willing to preach from the pulpit, can you tell me why that's important to you?"

"Because when you preach from the center of chancel," one of the members explained, "you block the view of the stained glass window, and we can't see Jesus."

Theology Forum / Re: Invalid Baptism?; Acts 2:38
« on: June 05, 2014, 07:11:19 PM »
It's sad to see so much more effort expended to prove others wrong than expended to see the truth.

Seminarian Connection / Re: Seminary
« on: May 30, 2014, 04:21:20 PM »
I've heard a lot of call stories, and a lot of descriptions of what "call" means.

Some say evidence of call is gifts for ministry. Others say passion, Still others believe they have heard or felt God directing them to ordained ministry.

I've heard it said "if you can do anything else but ministry, do that."

I've heard from people who felt the call would not leave them alone.

My personal experience is that this is a very difficult path, but one I could avoid only so long. Your experience may differ.

An increasing number of seminaries are now offering distance learning. The seminary from which I graduated, Chicago Theological Seminary, is one of them.

Blessings to you, no matter what you decide. My you hear God's still-speaking voice in your life.

Theology Forum / Re: Isaiah 57 and today's church
« on: May 07, 2014, 07:07:48 PM »
cindi We have Rowan helping ministries in Salisbury, where many of our members have volunteered, but my understanding is that this should be a regular, daily mission for every church, in every town, in every country.


Theology Forum / Re: Isaiah 57 and today's church
« on: May 06, 2014, 08:51:21 PM »
Gary, I like much of what you wrote here, especially regarding verse 7.

Here in the Chicago suburbs we have PADS, and many UCC congregations (along with other churches) host or volunteer. The church where I did my field education volunteered at another UCC and, when flooding damaged the basement of that church, my field ed UCC hosted PADS.  My home church doesn't have the facilities to host PADS, but we volunteer and cook meals for PADS at another nearby UCC.

We view the people who stay with us as our guests.

This is a step, but not a destination. We still fall woefully short of the hospitality of the early church.

Thank you for this post.

UCC in the News / Re: NC Suit
« on: April 29, 2014, 08:25:40 PM »
IANAL (I Am Not A Lawyer)

I'm guessing the state's arguments will be that UCC does not have standing as they cannot show injury, and so the suit should be dismissed.

UCC will counter that the law prevents ministers from performing rites approved by their church, creating standing for the denomination on behalf of their clergy.

The state will counter that no one has interpreted the law to mean that holy unions and blessings of relationships are prohibited - only weddings which are, by (the state's) definition, marriages requiring a license. (This would side-step the question whether the law would be enforced on clergy, delaying any suits until the state took action against clergy.)

UCC will counter that the law would then have no meaning, as (by the state's definition) any rite without a valid license is not a wedding, so it is impossible to have a minister perform a wedding (a rite that includes a valid wedding license) without a valid license. So the intent of the law cannot be prevent clergy from performing licensed weddings without a license.

If it gets to the point at which the state is arguing an interest in determining under what circumstances clergy may bless unions, I think the state will lose - though it will depend on the judges.

I wrote a little here:

UCC Café / Re: Share some daily Humor
« on: April 14, 2014, 06:46:44 PM »
A girl went to a large museum with her father. They entered a gallery filled with a multitude of modern works in display cases. A sign on the wall read, "Art Objects." Turning to her father, the girl asked him, "If Art objects, why is he letting them show his things?"

I love heteronymns like this. I was driving past a college the other day and saw a sign that read "DRIVEWAY ENTRANCES." I found the driveway to be rather ordinary and not entrancing at all.

Theology Forum / Re: Should Christians hold seders?
« on: April 14, 2014, 09:33:12 AM »
Thank you, Don.

UCC Café / Re: Who's missing?
« on: April 14, 2014, 09:30:05 AM »

UCC Café / Re: Who's missing?
« on: April 11, 2014, 08:05:02 AM »
I've mentioned the site/posting links a few times.

I'm Facebook friends with Cathy, Deb, Don, Enno, Jeff, Jeff, Lisa, Nick, and Steven.

Education Helpline / Re: Adult Sunday School?
« on: April 02, 2014, 10:10:24 PM »
We did a one year program called "Construct Your Own Theology." Developed in-house, we did one theological locus a month, spending four weeks as follows:

  • What does everyone think about __________?
  • What is the history of Christian thought about _________? How do we get to (what passes for) orthodoxy on the subject?
  • What are some modern ideas about __________? (compare creeds, statements of faith, what theologians say, where ever there's something to discuss)
  • How have the past three weeks informed you? Have your thoughts about ______ changed, and if so, how? If you feel even more strongly about how you originally thought, share why.

We covered the Creator God, Jesus on Earth, Christ as the Son, the Holy Spirit, evil/harm/bad things that happen, sin, redemption, ministry, the church, baptism, communion, and one that's slipping my mind at the moment.

It was a lot of work, because there was a lot of research for weeks 2 and 3, but it helped our group understand each other. We had people who came from Anglican, Baptist, Catholic, Dutch Reformed, Evangelical Free, Jewish, Methodist, Presbyterian, and United Church of Christ backgrounds, so it was very interesting to hear each other.

UCC Café / Re: Who's missing?
« on: April 02, 2014, 07:38:44 PM »
The Facebook, the Twitter, the Tumblr.

I'm over fifty, so I'm required to put a definite article before each name.

UCC Café / Re: Share some daily Humor
« on: April 02, 2014, 07:37:43 PM »

The sixth-grade summer band class was just getting under way when a large insect flew into the room. The students, eager to play their shiny new instruments, tried to ignore the buzzing intruder, but eventually one student could stand it no more. He rolled up his music book and swatted the insect, and then he stomped on it to ensure its fate.

"Is it a bee?" another student asked.

"Nope," he replied. "It's a bee flat."

Incidentally, you have to see sharp to swat a bee flat in one try. That kid's a natural.

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